Quickly learn how to barrel seat your 80% 1911 build.
Setup
Should be the same as cutting the slide rails in Part 5. Load up the 18mm ball end mill. You’ll be going for .08″ deep of a cut.  Disclaimer!
1911 80% Barrel Seating
Cutting
It was difficult to see where exactly was the middle, so I Dykem-ed and used the calipers to cut a middle line on the flat area.
1911 Barrel Seat DykemEyeballing 1911 Barrel Seat Cut
I got a good first hole.
Barrel Seat First Cut
But after unsuccessfully trying to mill using the drill press (it walks A LOT), I decided to just go to touching holes. This is the not very clean final product.
1911 Barrel Seat with Drill Press
After some filing and sandpaper, it looks a lot better. The barrel sits fine too. I’ll file some more afterwards.
Almost Finished Barrel Seat
Keep the jig on and we’ll finish the frame with the hammer & sear pin holes next.
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cj
Eric,
Which 80 percenter was easier, less expensive and most practical and/or trust worthy to build?
The Glock 80 percent or the 1911 80 percent?
July 20, 2017 6:44 pm
Eric Hung
For sure the Glock 80...I'd estimate my 1911 took 40 hours the first time while I've heard the Glock was a fraction.
July 23, 2017 9:38 am
cj
I was going to ask ( suggest) whether changing the position of the barrel seat cut might help. Cut (grind or file) parallel (to the top and rails) instead of perpendicular.
I see Matt mentioned a jig that might do the same type of cut as what I was thinking of, before knowing of a jig.
July 20, 2017 6:32 pm
Eric Hung
Yea there's a lot of jigs out there now...much easier than it was before.
July 23, 2017 9:38 am
Matt Green
I also had problems with the depth and chattering when using the ball nose end drill bit. For those of you who are doing multiple builds I recommend purchasing a barrel seat cutter. Matrix Precision Parts sells one for $59.00 (plus tax and shipping depending on your location). It is a jig that fits on the top of your frame and cuts the barrel seat horizontally instead of vertically. The result was perfect. All I needed to do was sand and polish the seat and the barrel fit without any additional modifications.
June 30, 2016 3:36 pm
ehung
Thanks for the suggestion!
July 5, 2016 4:22 pm
Brian Farrelly
Eric, love your article, it is very informative. However, I have to say one thing.In my opinion, none of the drill presses you mentioned or discussed will accept the 18mm ball nose end mill. I am certain because most drill press chucks do not allow for sizes exceeding the 1/2-3/4 inch bits, and most manufacturers do not allow for the provision of swapping out the chucks for one that meaty to accept an 18mm bit. I fear one would have to go all out and buy an full on industrial Drill Press to accept one. I searched everywhere to find a reduced shank 18mm Bit, and the most all of them had to offer me was an 18mm Ball nose end mill on a 16mm shank. I think one of the possible prospects would be to take the 18mm ball nose end mill to a machine shop and have them machine the shank so that a standard drill press could accept it. Thanks in advance for your feedback on my response to your great article.
But, I have to inquire, would it not be just as easy to utilize a Dremel tool, and with the time and lots of measurements achieve to barrel seat cut?
April 27, 2016 3:44 pm
ehung
Thanks for your comment! Never thought of taking the 18mm ball nose end mill to a machine shop so it could accept it. Let me know how it goes if you decide to go that route.
In regards to the Dremel tool...it should be doable although I would probably recommend getting a curved file and going slowly while measuring and fitting with the barrel if you're not going with the end mill.
April 27, 2016 7:29 pm
Glen
Eric- Great tutorial! I am getting ready to cut the barrel seat, and at center line I thought I needed to cut down .077" to the final depth for the barrel seat?
January 5, 2015 3:42 pm
Eric Hung
Hi Glen, thanks for catching that. I meant to write .08 inch is where I ended up. I looked at my Kuhnhausen manual and the exact depth is .077" like you had.
January 5, 2015 3:58 pm
joshua
Hi eric awesome tutorial i have a question what's the final depth of the barrel seat ?
August 7, 2014 10:42 pm
Eric Hung
Thanks! It ended up .08" for the barrel seat. My depths from the end mill were spot on, I just had to smooth out the sides.
August 8, 2014 10:03 am
Geoffrey Hoffman
Did your end mill have a straight shank? Finding the 18mm ball end is really big and doesn't fit normal chucks. I think most just top out at 1/2". Did you find a bigger chuck or a mill with a narrower shank?
August 5, 2014 1:52 pm
Eric Hung
My end mill had a straight shank. I might have lucked out but it fit fine into my Craftsman 12" drill press's chuck.
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Eric,
Which 80 percenter was easier, less expensive and most practical and/or trust worthy to build?
The Glock 80 percent or the 1911 80 percent?
For sure the Glock 80...I'd estimate my 1911 took 40 hours the first time while I've heard the Glock was a fraction.
I was going to ask ( suggest) whether changing the position of the barrel seat cut might help. Cut (grind or file) parallel (to the top and rails) instead of perpendicular.
I see Matt mentioned a jig that might do the same type of cut as what I was thinking of, before knowing of a jig.
Yea there's a lot of jigs out there now...much easier than it was before.
I also had problems with the depth and chattering when using the ball nose end drill bit. For those of you who are doing multiple builds I recommend purchasing a barrel seat cutter. Matrix Precision Parts sells one for $59.00 (plus tax and shipping depending on your location). It is a jig that fits on the top of your frame and cuts the barrel seat horizontally instead of vertically. The result was perfect. All I needed to do was sand and polish the seat and the barrel fit without any additional modifications.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Eric, love your article, it is very informative. However, I have to say one thing.In my opinion, none of the drill presses you mentioned or discussed will accept the 18mm ball nose end mill. I am certain because most drill press chucks do not allow for sizes exceeding the 1/2-3/4 inch bits, and most manufacturers do not allow for the provision of swapping out the chucks for one that meaty to accept an 18mm bit. I fear one would have to go all out and buy an full on industrial Drill Press to accept one. I searched everywhere to find a reduced shank 18mm Bit, and the most all of them had to offer me was an 18mm Ball nose end mill on a 16mm shank. I think one of the possible prospects would be to take the 18mm ball nose end mill to a machine shop and have them machine the shank so that a standard drill press could accept it. Thanks in advance for your feedback on my response to your great article.
But, I have to inquire, would it not be just as easy to utilize a Dremel tool, and with the time and lots of measurements achieve to barrel seat cut?
Thanks for your comment! Never thought of taking the 18mm ball nose end mill to a machine shop so it could accept it. Let me know how it goes if you decide to go that route.
In regards to the Dremel tool...it should be doable although I would probably recommend getting a curved file and going slowly while measuring and fitting with the barrel if you're not going with the end mill.
Eric- Great tutorial! I am getting ready to cut the barrel seat, and at center line I thought I needed to cut down .077" to the final depth for the barrel seat?
Hi Glen, thanks for catching that. I meant to write .08 inch is where I ended up. I looked at my Kuhnhausen manual and the exact depth is .077" like you had.
Hi eric awesome tutorial i have a question what's the final depth of the barrel seat ?
Thanks! It ended up .08" for the barrel seat. My depths from the end mill were spot on, I just had to smooth out the sides.
Did your end mill have a straight shank? Finding the 18mm ball end is really big and doesn't fit normal chucks. I think most just top out at 1/2". Did you find a bigger chuck or a mill with a narrower shank?
My end mill had a straight shank. I might have lucked out but it fit fine into my Craftsman 12" drill press's chuck.