There comes a point in every gun owner’s life when they start dreaming of just how much fun it would be to own a fully automatic rifle or even a machine gun.
The wind blowing through your hair, the smell of gunpowder in the air, and spent shell casings falling faster than you can count…
Unfortunately, that is also the point when you find out it’s not so easy to just go and buy a fully automatic weapon, thanks to something known as the “Hughes Amendment.”
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So, what is the Hughes Amendment?
Glad you asked. We’re going to talk about what this law covers and how it impacts you as a gun owner. So keep reading.
Disclaimer: While the information provided here is legal in nature, it is not to be construed as legal advice, and is for educational and entertainment purposes only.
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What’s the Hughes Deal?
So what’s this Hughes Amendment and why is it raining on our parade?
The Hughes Amendment, as the name implies, was an amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986.
The FOPA itself was an update to the Gun Control Act of 1968. This act loosened restrictions on a variety of gun laws, such as no longer requiring records of non-armor piercing ammo purchases.
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In addition to the other firearms regulations in the FOPA, the Hughes Amendment, in particular, added a section banning civilian transfer or ownership of machine guns…except for those already legally owned at the time the law went into effect on May 19, 1986.
This means the only remaining machine guns allowed for civilian possession were all made at least 35 years ago!
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The amendment also put our friends at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives in charge of any future civilian transfers of these firearms.
So that’s nice.
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What’s a Machine Gun Anyway?
Some of you might be thinking none of this really matters. You have no interest in actually owning a machine gun anyway.
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However, it’s important to keep in mind, a machine gun doesn’t just mean the M60 or M240 used by the military.
Under the National Firearms Act of 1934 — yet another set of gun laws separate from the GCA and FOPA — any fully automatic gun falls into the “machine gun” category. This includes a fully automatic AR-15.
More importantly, an auto sear placed into an AR-15 to make it fully automatic is also legally considered a “machine gun.” Even if it’s not put inside the rest of the AR-15 along with the other M16 parts to make it full-auto, it still counts.
So, transfer and ownership of even the auto sear is limited to only those in circulation prior to the 1986 cutoff.
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Can You Buy a Machine Gun?
With these restrictions, only a limited number of machine guns legally owned by civilians in the US exist.
No new machine guns made after the law went into effect in 1986 are allowed to be transferred or owned by civilians.
So, the guns we had access to 35 years ago are the only ones that can continue to remain in circulation.
If one breaks, or becomes destroyed somehow, there are that many fewer machine guns for us plebs to enjoy.
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Transfers of the existing stock are still allowed, of course. But you’ll need to have the money for it.
Since there is a limited number of remaining machine guns in circulation, the price for them has skyrocketed.
Assuming you can afford to pay for one, there are still some additional steps you’ll need to go through with the ATF.
To complete a machine gun transfer:
- Both the seller (transferer) and buyer (transferee) must complete an ATF application
- The buyer has to:
- Pay a $200 transfer tax to the ATF
- Submit two ID photos taken from within the past year
- Submit fingerprints
- Submit a copy of any state or local permits or licenses required to buy and possess machine guns
- Go through a background check
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Conclusion
The requirements don’t seem that difficult to meet. And really, the biggest hurdles will be the expense and waiting for approval from the ATF.
If you can find a willing seller and the money to pay for it, all that stands between you and true freedom is an ATF review…and a few (tens of thousands) of dollars! Easy peasy!
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For the rest of us, full-auto will likely be something we experience at gun shows every so often.
On the bright side, shooting semi-auto does help conserve ammo. And with the way ammo prices are going, only shooting semi-auto isn’t the worst thing in the world.
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Fired an M2 during my second qualification while in USAF, unfortunately in semi mode, likely since it was for quals.
However, years after separation, while taking a bunch of teens to a gun familiarization event. The police hosting this event for us had a Reising .45. Offer to let my wife and I a chance to fire it.
I was a bit amazed that the recoil was not as great as I expected. But the rise on the muzzle did occur. I still put all my rounds in the target. My wife, who as far as I knew at that point, had never fired such a weapon, or one of any kind, yet she managed to do a good job with it. Put most if not all her rounds in the target as well.
I've shot an M-2 Carbine, owned by a co-worker. We had gone to the gun range in San Antonio, with a visiting contractor who was advising us on our project. The visitor had also never shot a full auto. When I shot it, was on my 3rd burst (I tried to hold it to 3 rounds) and it quit. There was a broken part. At first the owner was PO'd at me for breaking his gun. Then when he looked at the broken part, he said "That's not a Mil-Spec part. Since he also collects M-1 carbines, he had plenty of the part involved. All three of the shooters were former military. I was AF, and never fired a gun, except at AF-ROTC field training, while on active duty. (I wasn't even IN the AF Reserve at that point, I was a "pure" civilian. The visitor was a Naval Officer, he had sold all his AR-15s because he lived in California and the laws were both always changing and were sometimes ambiguous. The owner had been Army and Army Guard, so I guess he had fired somewhat regularly back in the day.
Most of the GOPA was removal of overly restrictive rules/laws. But the Hudges amendment is what you are really talking about. It was a (literally) last minute House floor amendment. It was poorly written and if taken literally it wouldn't change anything, but it's enforced as intended, not quite as written.
Another point, the GOPA modified many of those older laws, so you don't have both to deal with. Mostly they made purchasing other firearms easier. One thing that should have been done later, but wasn't, was the removal of the Local cheif LEO permission, and a separate background check. The NICS check would do fine for both. But the Hughes Amendment has, AFAIK, not been challenged at the Supreme or even Circuit, Court level. It's clearly completely in violation of the 2nd amendment.
Hughes amendment(ban on machine guns) and nfa should be repeal and legalize weapons of war because it infringing on 2nd amendment rights and it not fair if military, law enforcement and authorities have those things but we as freedom, patriots, liberty and 2nd amendment lovers don't. So yeah Hughes amendment(ban on manufacturing, possession and transfer of new machine guns citizens) and nfa(weapons regulations and tax stamp) should be repeal whether anti 2nd amendment groups, congress, Supreme Court judges, state govorns and Presidents likes it or not
It should be struck down by the Courts, as a violation of the Constitution's 2nd amendment, and other parts of the bill of Rights. The politicians aren't going to repeal it. The political fallout from the gun grabbing left would be too extreme.
Of course, like other laws, the criminals don't follow it anyway, and many have full auto rifles, mostly AK types, but some others too.
the Hughes act will never be repealed, well not until all legally transferable MG's are destroyed. Liberals don't want it, and rich republican's who own FA guns don't want thier 40k gun become utterly worthless overnight.
Nope, I'm not rich. I've used things like my military bonuses to build a small, but nice collection worth quite a bit. I would get rid of everything from NFA 1934 on in a heart beat. Plus, guns like Colt or WW2 Thompsons wouldn't lose that much value because of there rareity. The West Hurley Thompsons made in the 70-80s would drop like a rock because new ones would only cost $1500. C&R guns would still be sky high. "New" made guns like M-44 and FG-42 would be great. I'd buy a new M-240B in a heart beat, (Ohio Ord Works make a semi version for $13,000. The last Transferable one that sold went for $350K because there's only 5 out there. Things like the HK MP-7 would become available. My HK auto sear would be worth $8 and I'd be O.K. with that.
I got caught short when my Class 3 dealers license was unusable because my license was issued after the ban on new machine guns. Are the AR pistol lower receivers serialized separately from AR rifles or are they the same with only the type of stock purchased being the only determiner if it's a pistol or a rifle? If I buy a pistol lower but not buy a complete gun will that allow me to outfit it as a pistol even if the ATF bans them?
48 yrs ago I fired a Thompson, fully auto, 45 cal. With a drum mag. What a blast! It was not a registered weapon, as the receiver was modified with a fully auto sear. Completed in a machine shop by friends of the guy. He has since passed and probably past it on to a son.
I am fortunate to have a best friend who was a SWAT cop in Las Vegas. Back in 2009, I got to spend two days on the LVMPD/SEAL/Ranger range with an MP5 and a Colt Commando M4. Thanks to the LVMPD, I had hundreds of rounds to play with. The Colt was only controllable in 3 or 4 round bursts. It wasn't all that much fun to shoot. By contrast, the MP5 was a blast. After two days of practice, I was able to place the carbine on full auto and fire one, two, or three-round bursts. At 25 yards, I was able to put those rounds in the head of the target. I was so impressed with the MP5's accuracy, I am determined to own a semiauto copy.
The 2nd amendment sure was a nice idea. Shame we let 'em gut it.
Also bear in mind some states outright ban possession of machine guns, and some even go as far as defining a machine gun as anything that shoots more than one bullet per single pull of a trigger. This definition would cover bans on binary triggers too.