What sight combines a red dot and regular irons? We try out the pistol and rifle variants of the SeeAll Open Sight and give our take on whether this different optic deserves a place on your firearm.
What sight combines a red dot and old school irons?
SeeAll Open Sights
The answer is…SeeAll Open Sights ($95-$195).
I heard about these a few years ago but their initial reviews weren’t that great due to ugly lettering in the sight picture and a weird set screw mount.
They’ve fixed all that AND added tritium for some glow-in-the-dark goodness. Let’s see if that’s enough for redemption.
The SeeAll is electronic free but still offers nearly parallax free targeting like in red dots. That means when you move your head around…the reticle stays on the target.
It does this with a magnifying lens in the front…and a smaller green/tritium section more forward that holds the reticle. In my case…a nice triangle that makes it very easy to figure out the point of impact.
SeeAll, Inside
Original versions had some lettering visible in this view so you can see how that would be distracting. There’s still a “R” to the bottom right but it’s barely visible when you’re on target.
How’s It Shoot?
SeeAll sent me two versions of their MK2 tritium models for testing.
Pistol Version
One for pistols which attaches via a dovetail insert. Make sure you have a pistol sight pusher since it took a little while to go on my Glock slide.
SeeAll Open Sights
I shot with the pistol version at the range a few times and also once for low-light competition. I figured that way the tritium could help out.
Here’s how the tritium insert looks in a dark closet.
SeeAll Tritium
And it with me in action.
Since I was running a TLR-8 flashlight I depended on that more instead of the tritium (see the Best Pistol Flashlights article for more). But it’s as bright as my normal tritium night sights.
I didn’t practice TOO much with the SeeAll on my pistol and I found it took more time to find the triangle.
My best explanation is that when you have a “U” or two-dot rear sight plus the front sight post, you can see how to adjust your handgun to line everything up.
With only the triangle to look for, especially in low-light, I found it more difficult than regular night sights to acquire the sight picture.
Therefore, I suggest pistol use only if you really train with the SeeAll, or if speed isn’t that much of a concern (the triangle system does seem plenty accurate). I can also see it great for beginners that are having some trouble with focusing on the front sight in a traditional rear/front system.
However…it’s different with a rifle.
Rifle Version
The rifle version of the SeeAll comes with a good large knob Picatinny mount. No more set screw nonsense.
Note that you’ll need a riser for the AR for a comfortable shooting position.
I used the UTG .5″ Riser ($14) but have also tried the .83″ Super Slim Mount ($12) which will save you a few ounces since you don’t need all that rail space.
SeeAll, Rifle Mount
On a rifle, I can get pretty consistent with my cheekweld and buttstock position. That made it a lot easier to acquire the triangle target.
Hitting 100-yard steel plates became a breeze.
This is where the SeeAll really shined. Now you get something that doesn’t need batteries…but still offers nearly parallax free shooting.
Here’s a video from SeeAll themselves on what it looks like when you’re actually shooting.
However, for both versions of the SeeAll…I wished it didn’t obscure the bottom part of the target as much. For something called the SeeAll…it needs to do better in that department.
By the Numbers
Function: 4/5
Pistol requires some more extensive training to acquire the target at my normal speed…but was easy on a rifle. The sight also cuts off too much of the target…especially when you’re comparing it with red dots.
Reliability: 5/5
I didn’t torture test it but it seems pretty robust in a machined metal casing and the lens is really beefy and recessed. Plus tritium has its great half-life of 12 years.
Accuracy: 5/5
The triangle target is more precise than standard pistol irons. And it was more than enough to hit plates at 25 yards.
Looks: 4/5
Most people have never seen one…so be prepared to get asked what it is. Fit and finish were great. But I do wish that it was a little shorter in height profile…especially when on a pistol.
Bang for the Buck: 3.5/5
The tritium version (Gen 2) sells for $195 on Amazon while the regular (Gen 1) is $94.  There’s a lifetime warranty…AND a 30 days no-questions return policy.
Overall Rating: 4/5
Conclusion
If you’re looking at a non-powered optic that gives you nearly parallax-free viewing…AND has tritium for low-light shooting. You should give the SeeAll a try.
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Johnny richardson
really like you work your very plasent and polite , now the brownie points are said, sos{smiling out loud} i bought a gen 2 blem for i think 65$ , it the cross hair one, cant get it acc. first i put it on my krx to shoot slugs w/riser no luck shot high and ran out of ajustments, so i put it on my ar still not acc. as flip up irons "and im old" so ended up using it as a bird shot up to buckshot shotgun sight, kray was great and tried to help me , maybe the delta works better? or maybe i got a bad one , i just kept it to much trouble to send it back , so its my horse shoe and hand gernade sight get close but not pin point "any pointers would be considerd, yea i know i cant spell for shite "sorry for that" thanks aka "clutch" ps you really are my fav. writer ? ... over there at pew wee.. smiley face
October 13, 2022 10:11 am
Smartacus
I just got a 12.5" pistol that I intend to suppress. I am thinking my 3x Nikon BDC doesn't make sense on a grab n' go gun for nighttime bumps or vehicle thievery prevention, definitely not for carjackings ANTIFA style, definitely not for creeping the woods at night. Red dots look like a starburst to me (I'm 52). Would you put this on a SHTF SBR or pistol as a primary sight in such conditions, after suitable familiarity?
August 18, 2020 7:13 pm
John
I just ordered one for my Sig P228. I was considering buying a G19 just so I put a RDS on it as I love the pistol RDS on my G30. I didn't want to have the slide milled on my P228. Hopefully, the target focus of the See All will be comparable to that of a RDS. I haven't shot the P228 in a while because it has very few accessories available for it these days. All this just to shoot cheap 9mm :p
September 13, 2018 6:45 pm
Joe
Good review and I agree with everything you said. I bought two to test with the idea of three possible applications. 1) to replace a Trijicon rx01 that has been on an old 30 carbine (frankengun, composite pistol grip stock modded) that has been there for years. Frankly, I have never been much impressed with that sight because it is somewhat dark in low light and yet the dot is dim in very bright light condittions. I had briefly replaced the rx01 with a burris fastfire, which I like, but I think the reliance on batteries, and the S&K mount having replaced the rear sight, precluding use of iron sights, is a bad idea. After mounting the Seeall it seems it works well enough here. It is not quite as fast as either previous dot sight because of having to, first, find the the reticle and then, second, move it to the upper edge in your sight picture for optimal accuracy. But the trade off is it is not hampered in bright light by dimness, as in the rx01, and still works well enough with the tritim in low light. Again better than the darkness of the rx01 in no/low light, all while not relying on batteries.
2) I think where this sight will shine is on my second application. On a 300 blackout AR pistol I have a nikon 1-4x m223 as primary optic (I am able to shoulder this pistol) with the burris fastfire on the 45° offset rail on my Warne RAMP mount. Due to difficulty of reaching the left side mounted power switch I knew I was going to have to replace this sight. Add to that, the fact that this rig has no iron sights, I felt it a marginal idea to rely on battery power as a back up. Mounting the Seeall here gives me a workable backup sight that does not rely on power, works well enough with no illumination in all daylight situations, the tritium source giving low/no light functionality.
3) The third possible application is on my wife's ORC, that currently has the low end red dot that came with ir and no option for iron sights. Again, believing that reliance on a battery power red dot (and a low end red dot at that), without bius, is a bad idea, I think think this could work better for her.
Again, I think the optimal role for this sight is as a backup to other optics and particularly where there are no buis in place. Let me know if you want a pic.
June 3, 2018 2:25 am
JaimeAstin
My Polymer80 was not happy with a lone wolf trigger setup. It would not fire. I replaced with a stock glock trigger and it is much happier now. I still might have to build another frame and see.
I am placing my order after this post. I want to use it on my Glock2o or my P80 Glock23... I might buy a rail for the XD... I am more of a 1911 guy and much more accurate with those type of guns. I want to try it on the poly guns, even though you did not like it so far.
I think it will get both sights. I have 30 days to return... and the fact that they have tritium, this is a good deal;
Nice review.
May 2, 2018 7:50 am
Eric Hung
Let me know what you think of it! I probably just needed more practice on the handgun beforehand.
May 2, 2018 9:30 pm
Frank
Great review Eric. I think I'd like to try it out myself on my CW9.
May 1, 2018 7:53 pm
Eric Hung
Thanks Frank. I have a CW9 and it might be a little small for this sight. Let me know if you decide to go ahead with it!
May 1, 2018 9:44 pm
Dakota
Would you say that the extra weight on the slide caused the failure to fire?
Also, would you be able to mount this onto a cz platform? The top of the slides are a bit slimmer than that of a glock, so it's picky with most sights.
May 1, 2018 3:57 pm
Eric Hung
It could be...or it could be my P80 build skills. I was getting consistent failure to fires after tactical reloads. I haven't shot the slide and frame combo without the SeeAll yet. I'll report back when I take it off to see if I have the same problem. As long as the dovetail fits, it should be fit but might sit over the slide.
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really like you work your very plasent and polite , now the brownie points are said, sos{smiling out loud} i bought a gen 2 blem for i think 65$ , it the cross hair one, cant get it acc. first i put it on my krx to shoot slugs w/riser no luck shot high and ran out of ajustments, so i put it on my ar still not acc. as flip up irons "and im old" so ended up using it as a bird shot up to buckshot shotgun sight, kray was great and tried to help me , maybe the delta works better? or maybe i got a bad one , i just kept it to much trouble to send it back , so its my horse shoe and hand gernade sight get close but not pin point "any pointers would be considerd, yea i know i cant spell for shite "sorry for that" thanks aka "clutch" ps you really are my fav. writer ? ... over there at pew wee.. smiley face
I just got a 12.5" pistol that I intend to suppress. I am thinking my 3x Nikon BDC doesn't make sense on a grab n' go gun for nighttime bumps or vehicle thievery prevention, definitely not for carjackings ANTIFA style, definitely not for creeping the woods at night. Red dots look like a starburst to me (I'm 52). Would you put this on a SHTF SBR or pistol as a primary sight in such conditions, after suitable familiarity?
I just ordered one for my Sig P228. I was considering buying a G19 just so I put a RDS on it as I love the pistol RDS on my G30. I didn't want to have the slide milled on my P228. Hopefully, the target focus of the See All will be comparable to that of a RDS. I haven't shot the P228 in a while because it has very few accessories available for it these days. All this just to shoot cheap 9mm :p
Good review and I agree with everything you said. I bought two to test with the idea of three possible applications. 1) to replace a Trijicon rx01 that has been on an old 30 carbine (frankengun, composite pistol grip stock modded) that has been there for years. Frankly, I have never been much impressed with that sight because it is somewhat dark in low light and yet the dot is dim in very bright light condittions. I had briefly replaced the rx01 with a burris fastfire, which I like, but I think the reliance on batteries, and the S&K mount having replaced the rear sight, precluding use of iron sights, is a bad idea. After mounting the Seeall it seems it works well enough here. It is not quite as fast as either previous dot sight because of having to, first, find the the reticle and then, second, move it to the upper edge in your sight picture for optimal accuracy. But the trade off is it is not hampered in bright light by dimness, as in the rx01, and still works well enough with the tritim in low light. Again better than the darkness of the rx01 in no/low light, all while not relying on batteries.
2) I think where this sight will shine is on my second application. On a 300 blackout AR pistol I have a nikon 1-4x m223 as primary optic (I am able to shoulder this pistol) with the burris fastfire on the 45° offset rail on my Warne RAMP mount. Due to difficulty of reaching the left side mounted power switch I knew I was going to have to replace this sight. Add to that, the fact that this rig has no iron sights, I felt it a marginal idea to rely on battery power as a back up. Mounting the Seeall here gives me a workable backup sight that does not rely on power, works well enough with no illumination in all daylight situations, the tritium source giving low/no light functionality.
3) The third possible application is on my wife's ORC, that currently has the low end red dot that came with ir and no option for iron sights. Again, believing that reliance on a battery power red dot (and a low end red dot at that), without bius, is a bad idea, I think think this could work better for her.
Again, I think the optimal role for this sight is as a backup to other optics and particularly where there are no buis in place. Let me know if you want a pic.
My Polymer80 was not happy with a lone wolf trigger setup. It would not fire. I replaced with a stock glock trigger and it is much happier now. I still might have to build another frame and see.
I am placing my order after this post. I want to use it on my Glock2o or my P80 Glock23... I might buy a rail for the XD... I am more of a 1911 guy and much more accurate with those type of guns. I want to try it on the poly guns, even though you did not like it so far.
I think it will get both sights. I have 30 days to return... and the fact that they have tritium, this is a good deal;
Nice review.
Let me know what you think of it! I probably just needed more practice on the handgun beforehand.
Great review Eric. I think I'd like to try it out myself on my CW9.
Thanks Frank. I have a CW9 and it might be a little small for this sight. Let me know if you decide to go ahead with it!
Would you say that the extra weight on the slide caused the failure to fire?
Also, would you be able to mount this onto a cz platform? The top of the slides are a bit slimmer than that of a glock, so it's picky with most sights.
It could be...or it could be my P80 build skills. I was getting consistent failure to fires after tactical reloads. I haven't shot the slide and frame combo without the SeeAll yet. I'll report back when I take it off to see if I have the same problem. As long as the dovetail fits, it should be fit but might sit over the slide.